Uberti Model 1858 - Stainless - .44 Cal $ 389.00 For sale is a Uberti Model 1858 New stainless black powder revolver in .44 Cal black powder. Please see our cowboy ammuntion selection. Johnnie Roper. I had to pause writing this so I coMore details, EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. This item has been previously loved and shot only 48 rounds since new. revolvers. I had originally meant to post a pic for this thread, but never did, so here it is, a pic of the rear target sight used on the Pietta version of the 1858 Remington. Hooray for water! Regular gun solvents cant remove the black powder salts. Move that up or down even a little and the groups would wander off left/right and up/down. Click Pictures below for larger images , prices and full gun details:-. $393.59. I load as follows: With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. It is the reciever/frame of any gun that is the controlled part, basically the receiver or frame IS the gun, legally. He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. Remington paid a royalty fee to Smith & Wesson, owners of the Rollin White patent (#12,648, April 3, 1855) on bored-through revolver cylinders for metallic cartridge use. 1858 REMINGTON STAINLESS STEEL SHERIFF .44 5 1/2" UI. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. Real black powder loading. 1858 Remington Stainless Steel Sheriff .44 5 1/2" CW +. My very first Cap & Ball Revolver was replica of aaan1860 Colt Army Revolver. Easier to load and clean. This was a very common happening in the field. The 1851 Navy revolver was adopted by both the U.S. and British military. Thanks. The Remington 1858 black powder revolver has a walnut stock and a stainless steel frame with a brushed finish. Jim, you mentioned the Ruger Old Army , 44 cal. . Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. They are both shooters and I believe they will have a blast with this next time I visit. If you are unable to make it to our premises . About 400 ft-lbs Energy. In .44 calibre where you are literally moving more metal (lead) down the chambers, a bit of extra effort is required. near mint, Presented in Very Good Condition, It is plenty heavy. The Kirst conversion is named after probably the most famous cinematic example of the 1858 Remington rapid cylinder change, the final gunfight from Clint Eastwoods Pale Rider. The conversion cylinder is indeed just a part, and can be bought anywhere any time any place. Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. ( ( (Made to order))) Meat harvesting is whats done here in Texas. I now have two 58s one with a conversion (to 45 colt cartridge) cylinder from Midway that works great, and no black powder fouling. Pietta is the largest seller of target models that have a rear adjustable sight, and should be easier to find on the used market. Have fun. Sounds like the name of a shady character lurking in the wisteria of some Flannery OConnor story, doesnt it? I will probably get a short-barreled Sheriff model later this year. The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. Start Club Intro for $9.99 In this case the rear sight is a simple, fixed V-notch cut into the rear of the top strap. percussion caps are NOT standard size. I have three Sheriffs Models, and consider them SO GOOD, I carry one every day for Self-Defense! I am not convinced about black powder handguns for deer hunting. Add to Cart. 1858 Remington Steel Checkered I have a spare cylinder in the LC so I can keep shooting just by swapping the cylinders. 1858 competition stainless steel Stainless barrel & action, in excellent condition. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! Can anyone tell me a good load to start? . This then makes disassembly easy, as all you do is drop the rammer lever and pull out the T-shaped arbour, place the hammer at half-cock and roll the cylinder out to the right. google. 1858 Remington Dlx Texas Nickel Engraved .44 8' Ultra Ivory Grip, .44 Caliber Nickel Engraved 8" Barrel Ultra Ivory Grips Brass Frame. Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. To the OP, I don't think you will have to worry about weakening the frame by cutting in a groove for mounting the sight. . For powder loads, the .36s usually run 15-20 grains (that is by volume, not by weightso you MUST use a measure), while most loads for .44s that Ive seen (all my guns are .36) are 25 to (max) 35 grains. For Civil War pistoleros the best way to rapidly reload any cap-and-ball revolver, including the 1858, was to carry several of them, like this other guya Confederate guerilla from Missouri. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. I got to fire a few cap and ball revolvers when on holiday in Italy. Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont safety notches. 44 Cal. Select options. While the Colt employs separate screws for the cylinder stop and trigger, those components share the same through-frame screw in the Remington design. Pietta Stainless Steel 1858 Army 45 LC Fluted 6 Round Conversion Cylinder $ 300.00; Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Converts. The special powder and minimal charge reduced black powder fouling, allowing revolvers to be fired as much as possible before cleaning was necessary.[5][6]. No feeder, but a scoped .243 at 75 yards (distance to the tree line) no one calls it hunting. Braided Stainless Steel Hose, Use With Pulsefire Handheld Torch. Uberti black powder 1858 new improved army stainless. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. First load powder, then press ball. 1858 Remington, .44cal, Steel Frame, 8" Oct. Barrel. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. Actually. Thats meat harvesting and theres nothing wrong with it. Like this guy. For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. . . Our 1858 STAINLESS STEEL FRAME BUFFALO revolvers were obtained by special order to Old South Firearms in limited quantities so don't delay in placing your order and don't forget to check out our Buffalo holster by Triple K, . I shot it again in the side and it stop rolling around. Ste., 1-D, Santa Ana, CA 92705 | 800-430-1310 | 949-261-6611 | Fax 949-756-0133. For the first 50 rounds the cylinder was very tight and a pain in the butt to fit in and out of the frame, but it is broken in and now I can change it with ease, but Im still not as fast as Clint in Pale rider. CONTACT. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Grooved rear sight made out of top receiver and bladed post front sight. Unbelievable what has happened to the price of Old Army since Ruger quit making them. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. Uberti's 1858 NMA Inox 5 " strikes a good compromise on practicality and performance in what is a primitive and uncertain system. In truth round ball is best as it can be bought over-sized and when rammed will become an interference (gas-tight) fit in the chambers, which is what you want. PART #: RGASH44 CAPACITY: BARREL LENGTH: Euro Arms Remington New Model 1858 Stainless 44 44cal 8" No Reserve. Second those who shot cartridge pistols and still want the challenge of a handgun so have learned to love, or at least put up with the foibles of BP equipment. Feature s .44 caliber 5.5 barrel Blued steel frame and barrel Fine. It was a great pointer and very accurate. Samuel Remington traveled to Washington in the fall of 1861, offering to sell his revolvers to the government at a cost of $15 eachor $10 less than what Colt was charging the Ordnance Department for its .44-cal. 357 Magnum. It will come out squeaky clean and also dry and all you need to do is squirt some oil into the mechanism. Here are the solutions: 1) Proper fitting caps are an absolute must, loose or overly tight caps are nothing but trouble. You could become the next Farinelliif youre lucky. Water is definitely the very best way to get rid of Black Powder fouling. One of these has been on my list of stuff to get for a long, long time. In the case of a revolver it isnt nearly as serious as making a machine gun, obviously, but still illegal, ATF requires any receiver that takes modern manufacture ammunition to be given a serial number and registered, and must be someone who is legally able to alter and build firearms under state and fed law. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. This gun features a tapered octagon barrel, steel frame, brass trigger guard, 6-shot cylinder, fixed sights and two-piece walnut grips. 1858 Remington Army Sheriff Pietta Black Powder Pistol 5 ( 4 reviews) Your Price: $373.99 In Stock - Ships Today! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I have an Italian-made 1858 replica with an R&D conversion cylinder. Question of the Day: Do You Worry About Unarmed Loved Ones? The Pistol was so designed, that the hammer when cocked, would suck back with it, the remnants of the cap just fired, which more often than not, would follow the principle of Gravity, so ably demonstrated by Sir Isaac Newton, and fall into the Yawning Gap, the cocked hammer revealed, So when the trigger was pressed for the next shot, there would be a sort of, Scrunch, sound, as the cap was chewed up and mashed by the falling hammer, effectivley jamming the revolver! If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. What is really going on is that the low velocity sabot or conicals drop quite a bit, and holdovers are extreme. Here is my promised review of the 5.5" Pietta "Sheriff's Model" version of the Remington New Model Army revolver. 9mm Pistol, http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/1851-1861-navy-collection/1851-navy-steel-36-5-octagonal-barrel-steel-case-hardened-frame-brass-backstrap-trigger-guard-model-002.html, Johnnie Roper (Gunslinger9378 on the 1858Remington.com Forum. 5.1/2 .44 Please rate the video! The Remington is a single-action, six-shot, percussion revolver produced by E. Remington & Sons, Ilion, N.Y., based on the Fordyce Beals patent of September 14, 1858 (Patent 21,478). You can earn 6Reward Points! Add to Cart. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. Range, of course, is quite limited. Add to Cart. If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. 4. Those who use muzzle-loading revolvers in my opinion fall into two distinct groups first are the traditionalists who like the equipment for what it is and, perhaps more importantly, as it was originally designed. Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. An exceptional quality reproduction of the Remington 1858 New Model, except that all major metal parts - but the trigger guard are manufactured from corrosion resistant stainless steel. With the shorter 5 barrel I have found between 10 and15-grains is more sensible and economic, as with a maximum charge a lot of the powder is wasted in flash and flame effect. The open top revolver needed some work. Downloads Manuals Black Powder Revolvers Instruction Manual (292.32 KB) Community History Social eNews Subscription Everything you ever wanted to know about the 1858 Remington (and some things you didnt!). the 1858 is Lee van Cleefs gun in Good, bad and the ugly. Remington made a cartridge conversion in .46 rimfire, after they ponied up the royalty fee to Smith & Wesson and their fancy-pants bored-through revolver cylinders for metallic cartridges. So go figgure. The percussion caps are a standard size. They are well made, good lock-up and, based on the limited number of times I have shot them, they shoot quite well. One good smack on the percussion caps, and BOOM! Theres little doubt that stainless steel is a superior material for BP revolvers, as it resists corrosion damage far better than carbon steel. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. Long. The cylinders are pricey, it cost as much as the gun, but I have gotten over the price and enjoy the heck out of shooting and reloading 45s. Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd.Registration number: 04109672 | Registered Office Address: 185 Fleet Street, London, England, EC4A 2HS. Le Mat and General Beauregard who worked together to perfect the ultimate cavalry sidearm. I am a bit of a traditionalist so I have 50-50 lard-beeswax that I put on cylinder after loading; cleaning is easy with hot water and Ballistol. Personally, I think hes nutso! Desert Eagle. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. It blew LaHood through a windowyumm. Youre only hunting if you sharpen a stick and use it as a spear. Theyll NEVER rust this way. Youd use either #10 or #11, the 11s being the larger. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. A recruit, playing (Hopefullly with an UN-Loaded revolver!) If you have a choice, get stainless steel and adjustable sights. On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. See " More Info" for details. It could definitely be loaded to deer-hunting levels but I just used it to punch large holes in an old oil drum we left against the sand bank at the quarry. In my experience, the fit and finish of the Italian replicas is not so much who makes them as who imports them and sells them in the US. As I got older and learned about black powder, the Remington pre-cartridge design just intuitively looked stronger. could easily have the hammer slip off his thumb, and and fall into the Half-Cock Notch, This almost always broke off a sixteenth of an inch off the tip of the sear, and using this rough edge to fire the piece, made for a very rough trigger release! Pietta 1858 Remington Black Powder Revolver 44 Caliber 8" Barrel Steel Frame Blue. There were three progressive models made: the Remington-Beals Army & Navy (18601862), the 1861 Army & Navy (18621863), and the New Model Army & Navy (18631875). My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! Uberti 1858 Remington Black Powder Revolver 44 Caliber Product Family #: 1017038819 84 Write a Review Q&A (38) Videos (1) List Price: $454.22 - $580.14 Our Price: $349.99 - $580.14 Mixed Availability Select Finish: Select Barrel Length: Select Frame Finish: Black Powder Caliber: 44 Caliber Ignition Type: Percussion Quantity: Add to Cart Notify Me The Remington Army cartridge-conversions were the first large-caliber cartridge revolvers available, beating even Smith & Wesson's .44 American to market by nearly two years. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). If not done properly and regularly your revolver will suffer. Me too. on this product! Again far from traditional, but offering greater accuracy potential. For an 1858, the standard Remington caps will work brilliantly. 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