I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. But that explanation was also not bought by many. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. But seeing these articles faze me. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? They're open-minded and extremely kind people. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. There are so many kids in the . Thank you~). 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. i love exo. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. ga('ads.send', { Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Press J to jump to the feed. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. },false) | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. This was such a good response. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. pg.acq.push(function() { but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. I hope everybody has a good day/night. That crosses every sort of line. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. ourbridgeisforever:. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. let gads_event; And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. JavaScript is disabled. Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! 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