Id never seen tracks that huge. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. The next stage of the disease results in paralysis. P-38 was a male mountain lion born in 2012 and first collared in 2015, the statement said. They respond pretty well to people calibers without the need to go full-on hand cannon. Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. I almost needed a new clean pair of drawers. What do you know! There is no doubt that bigger and more powerful handguns are preferable for hunting but self protection at close range differs greatly from hunting as it requires quick, often multiple hits, from close range while under extreme stress. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. In an ambush situation, if you havent been paying attention, you wont have much time to reactMost of the people I know use the Ruger Alaskan pistols in 44mag minimum, next in popularity is the 454 Ruger Alaskan. Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. Remember one thing in Bear country. But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. Carry to fit your states wild life? Jim Farmer You will only have only one chance to prove fluffy wont kill you. In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. I heard that some hikers on Mt. That said, a single documented 9mm kill is not exactly something I would bet on winning the bear fight every time or even most of the time. I would recomend holding off until the bear is so close that he would be hard to miss and then not shooting any higher than nostril level. Surprisingly, I had to shoot it THREE times in the head, from INCHES away before it died. Too many horses, the federal government says, are crowding the scraps of . A few years back I went to Alaska, rented a 44 pickup camper,& spent 6 weeks in the boondocks, with only my wife. Yes and no.. It can push a 400-grain bullet to more than 1,500 fps, but I cant control it. carry ! I carry either my Ruger Alasken 44 mag, or my Ruger GP 100 in 44 Special with custom loaded 255 gr. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. Yes I admit, Im a revolver person. Im a pistol guy now, and except for my Ruger Super Red Hawk, I seldom shoot revolvers. When I asked him for his insight, he was kind enough to respond in detail. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . is excellent. I enjoyed the article. So, I got a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70Gvt. Lesson learned never keep food for bears in your camp site. 7 tours of duty (Coast Guard) and 11 years of volunteer EMT3 doing Bush & Mountain rescue all over Alaska, 10 years as AK Hunter Safety instructor and professional brown bear photographer + successful hunter and competition shooter, and trapper. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. What to do? Just my 2 cents for whats its worth. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. Disease is a greater concern when lions are genetically isolated as in the Santa Ana Mountains, and could potentially contribute to future decline in that population. Tracy Ross 3:00 AM MST on Jan 1, 2023. 8. I carry both in a Blackhawk Alaska Guide Holster in the field, and in a Galco leather CCW holster under my belt in town: since being on TV, I learned that stalkers can be just as dangerous a charging bear. To purchase a sidearm for bear country on GunsAmerica, click here. Mace or a .45 Colt? I live in Alaska. No thanks. Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! He said 45 colt loaded with a 300 grain plus hard cast bullet. People started carrying bear spray in that area. While hunting is one of my favorite pastimes, fishing and hiking are a wonderful means of spending time with friends and family and living in close proximity to both the Catskill and Adirondack mountains, there is ample opportunity for both of those activities. All shots were heart lung.The racoon dispatched with a .45 was knocked about 4 inches sideways, crawled about a foot and died, the racoons shot with the 9 mm flinched and continued staggering towards a brushy ditch and escape, I placed a shot between the shoulder blades as I had gotten behind it and advanced from the high bank of the ditch. took advantage of this for their hike the following day. Carry a 5 S&W 500 loaded with 700 gr hardcast from Ballistic Supply. We killed about 5 hogs every week he shot them with 22 never saw any that didnt fall over dead. When I head afield, I nearly always carry one form of sidearm or another, and while the truly dangerous encounters are definitely a rarity, I feel better knowing I can protect my loved ones and coworkers should the event unfold. 11-02-2012, 5:06 PM. Ammunition To Go : 50rds - 38 Special Federal LE 158gr. Commander. In my tests with 300 gr. Then when we were at Cabelas, I compared the photo on my phone to all the cougar mounts and none came anywhere close. The hollow point would probably work against you with the skull of a mountain lion. . think of anything better to own, carry, keep, and have instantly accessible than a good Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. Into a wheel gun ! Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. The Inuit hunters would wait at a breathing hole in the ice. Key Points: No dog, regardless of the breed, would be able to take on a full-grown mountain lion solo. shop reading and start thinking. Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. They live off the grid and have lots of bear trouble with their livestock. A mountain lion would win a fight against a wolf. What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? One thing that does not get mentioned much is that Y pattern that a charging bears head presents makes for a difficult target to hit. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. carry the biggest piece of iron that you can place multiple rounds accurately and in very little time, amigos.. A 10mm Glock is not going to be too . Can a wolf beat a mountain lion? Are they prudent, not for me. I used them for too many years to be so. You go first, Ill watch. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. The first dozen rounds I shot were without gloves and I got a severe cut on my support hand thumb! I dont care if my hand probably wont wrap around the grip. Dont immediately dismiss bear spray from consideration. C. After a Loss Depredation Permit Process. The bullet entered at the last rib on the right side and ripped through diagonally and lodged in the base of the neck on the left side. However, if you're going to deploy bear spray against a mountain lion, then you need to make sure of a few things. My thought The bear was hurt so it couldnt run thank God abd CVA. Killed a mountain Grizzly but did not get my polar bear. Perfect gun to have, I dont own one to date but I would love to have a monster K frame, you could practice with 45 long Colts. Regarding my loads, Im partial to a 230 grain Federal Hydra-Shok jacketed hollowpoint staggered with 230-grain lead cast bullet, one following the other, the first round out of the magazine a Hydra-Shok. A picture shows a lamb and a mountain lion side by side. Im paraphrasing a bit here, but I once read an article by Bill Jordan about a new Weatherby rifle he was about to take on safari to Africa. Little meat damage and with a WC or Semi WC will certainly do the job. A 45 Long Colt? For what its worth, bear spray is likely to get you killed in my humble opinion. This is no problem as we are talking about a custom pistol anyway. black bears Fly fishing in AK, and knocking around the woods I often carry a stainless charter target bulldog in 44 special. Buffalo bore and underwood make fmj,hardcast and exteme hunter ammo. Mountain lion study highlights. Not an expert by any means, just always loved the horribilis in the name, denoting the end result of chance meeting with an angry Grizzly in a dark alley. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 hes ON TOP OF YOU CHOMPING ON YOUR SPINE and THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD ! I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. Do you have a problem with this model? No HPs! I wasnt sure if the .357 was really optimal for bear spanking as my father, a hunter and 23 year US Army Combat Veteran would say and couldnt bring myself to splurge on either 10mm or something in the .44 magnum ranges. Browning on your sail boat, that will keep you happy ! Shot 3 whitetail doe in the noodle with that rifle, and it wasn,t graphic. I some what agree. This calls for a heavy crimp (I use a Redding profile crimp die and seat and crimp in two seperate operations useing H-11O or Win. Something else. Same holster also. Why are you people just bubbling so much is it because you need to say something that means nothen in the real world. Picture yourself on your back with a bear in your face and you trying to fight him off with one hand and reaching for your gun. Were they harder to kill then healthy racoons, no. and I usually see a grizzly when I hunt almost within sight of Cody Wy. Mountain lions are a specially protected species in California. Needless to say, the culprits were evicted, the wing was evacuated and the room needed to be completely gutted and refinished. Hardcast bullets and accuracy! You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. in bear country. They are most active between dusk and dawn, and generally avoid contact with humans. Ive lived and hunted and fished in Alaska since 1993. However, I dont think that a short barrel revolver will produce such a velocity. No matter what anybody says, Shoemaker got lucky with that 9mm on the bear. There were teams of men racing across Alaska. And if he could run too fast, any caliber will work for knee caps!!!! He told the cameraman Ive killed bears with this gun. Changing, yes, but then you look at the ravages of the recent volcanoes and all the CO2 released. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. Rocky the dog was left with a hole in his head that went "down to his brain" after he bravely defended his . Again, his Smith and Wesson Model 66 heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Good luck It is not as if that information is widely out there ..This is part of a Strategy. They are considered important in maintaining ecosystems and controlling other animal populations such as deer, its preferred prey. .45 Colt may be questionable, but better than a .38. The Mountain Lion will return to feed on the prey for up to 10 days. The 357-magnum case is just a bigger capacity shell able to provide much better performance. Its light and easy to carry.. So far, Ive never seen anything bigger than a hare, but it never hurts to be careful. My rule of thumb is the minimum is 4-3-1. They have been most noted in the mountains of California but had, at one time, been found across North and South America. In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. A good friend used to go to Alaska to fish. If I had not shot the hog with a .44 Magnum I think it would have ended very badly. The cartridge will push a 180-grain bullet to a respectable 1,300 fps, and that little Kimber has a lot to offer. I often have to carry elk quarters out in the Bitteroot mountans, which is heavy populated with wolves, grizzly, black bear, and moose, all of which I have had numerous too close for comfort encounters where Ive had to draw down. Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. A mountain lion's skull is thicker than that of a human, and they can survive shots from firearms that are much more powerful. With a double-action police type service revolver I can unload all six spent shell casings into the palm of my hand and thus One must realize that with the adrendeline flowing, a moving target and possibly poor light conditions it is not easy to hit well with a hand gun no matter how good you are at the range! When a bear is facing you even if you penetrate the meat and skull, the skull is angled flat so the bullet would probably ricochet rather than penetrate. With respect to the brownies, I have reached out to the bear guides, residents and hunters for their wisdom and experience on the matter, to find out exactly which sidearms they favor and why. I know Phil has seen more bears killed than I ever will, but he got lucky. Folks need to realize that most .45 Colt cases are not strong enough to handle those high pressure loads even if the gun could. 44 mag is a minimum and it would have to be a DA version. Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. When confronted by a threat.. you need to tick off a very short, well reasoned and practiced list. Buzz, A Smith & Wesson Model 29, in .44 Remington Magnum completely in the vein of Dirty Harry still makes an excellent choice for the bear woods. We hadnt thought of that. He ran to get the gun, and when the animal started to investigate whether P.J.s head was bite-sized, Smith told him to shoot the animal, which he did with one extremely well-placed shot. Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. Your 9mm, .38 spl. Mountain Lion Attack Stopped by Man with Handgun in 2010, Teenager Sexually Assaults Friends Mom, Gets Rejected at Gunpoint, TTAG Daily Digest: Actually Shooting Someone, Ratings Kryptonite and the NRA in the Time of Trump. The young boy said he could not feel the teeth because they were dull, but Paul did feel the scratches from the big paw. Im not against revolvers. No, they dont. Scientific Evidence regarding bear spray?.. The lion ignored the adults in the group and went right for the children. A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! where do you come up with this bullshit. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. lever action 44 mag) . Here in Upstate New York we have a very healthy black bear population, and highway sightings are quickly becoming a regular occurrence, as are the classic raids on bird feeders and garbage cans alike. In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! The ultimate outcomeof this predatory performanceisn't clear, but watching a puma stalking a pair of bull elk makes for an unforgettable sighting. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. Personally, I'd feel the best with a .44 mag, .45LC, or 45-70 in a Marlin carbine. May 23, 2022 / by / in . They could see the best place to setup before the Mosquito came out. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. Ultimately, some gun is better than no gun, and too much gun that youre unable to get proficient with is a problem. The early anthropologists visiting Alaska, brought back numerous polar bear skulls with a 22 rimfire hole in the top. uh://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1, https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/. I believe that folks who do their own reloading can increase the powder and velocity of this caliber, but I am reluctant to try the beefed up bullets in a Scandium or polymer framed weapon. Roughly the same size as my 8 S & W 44 mag, but a lot more fire power. @1,200+ FPS and a 300gr. After watching a grizzly tear apart a moose calf in the Tetons I took my s&w .40 to a pawn shop and traded it for a .41 magnum Taurus tracker with a 4 ported barrel, The S&W .500 was too heavy to carry while hiking. Jul 30, 2019. I have both the Governor and a Public Defender Judge, but no steel framed .45 Long Colt guns. Question whats your life worth to you. on this subject is this: self defense/house protection/concealed carry is only half I mostly use single action pistols in 44 Mag, 45 colt, 454 casull, and a Bowen 475 Linebaugh that is my favorite. National Park Service, via AP, FILE. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: A large bore hot load can be a challenge to control and difficult for multiple shots, while something like a 10mm in a good semi-auto allows for powerful rounds and multiple shots rapidly fired on target for many. Live in Alaska. After feeding on its kill, the lion will cache the prey, or bury it in a secluded spot. trunnis goggins wife; can a 38 special kill a mountain lion. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. Chances are youll only get to use one? Inside the house, condo, apartment, or indoors such should There are too many stories of people getting mauled by bears that charged right through their attempt to spray it, and they could never get to their gun in time once the bear hit. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. The rabid coons were like a drunk, or drugged as they did not acknowledge being shotAmmo used.45 corbon 185 gr hp + p. 9 mm Federal hydroshok 124gr. feral hogs If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. With those animals ranging from 30 pounds to 1200 pounds, there is no single optimum caliber/bullet combination. The spent shell casings can end up lost in the grass, sagebrush, bushes, woods, Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge. My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. Most rangers will tell you a $50. He saved them both, barely, with his .338 rifle. He didnt know what kind of weapon was used. I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. I would also explore all the different kinds ammo available that would be the best for an attack by a bear. Im somewhat challenged with smartphone technology. Carrying a 9mm, 10mm, 45 acp, etc. After being carjacked 2 years ago, I WILL NOT be a victim, again. In the springtime, when the streams are populated with fishermen, the bears are coming out of hibernation and are ravenous. My Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt with handloads, 300-grains, 1,200 fps (1,192 to be exact) goes with me on a lot of black bear hunts with hounds. Both are excellent sidearms but leave something to be desired when confronting big game in the boonies. When the smoke cleared the bear was on its back waving its legs. be utilized for small game hunting: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse. If it was acting as weird as they say, they were idiots for not assuming that it was rabid. I have always heard, or read, that one should use heavy for caliber, hard cast lead bullets for bear. I carried a 454 casull in Alaska heavy l now carry a glock 20 10mm 15 rounds even if I dont stop the bear shooting all the way to the end just makes me fell better. They dont respond the same way as healthy animals. Anyhow, nice article and just consider the glock 10 mm if you are comfortable with a semi-auto tyoe pistol. Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. just my 2 cents. I doubt that I have walked past a moose without noticing. Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. Youre 100% correct. Fortunately I was about 80 yds. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. Its time for some lab work, and the Feds arent going to let us stake a few bears out in someones back forty to test loads out on. Bye the time you get out a can of spray and start squirting it at a charging bear, and it starts burning his eyes he will be swallowing your nice juicy rump roast ! do revolvers. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. Id be packing heat. Oaf, that was funny! Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. I can say the 41 is probably my minimum for the big bears. A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. Nine for the bear and the 10th for me if the nine didnt work. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. I load them to just over 1,200 fps. This gun is horrible to carry full time when it must be out of site sometimes!! And maybe just maybe you walk away on the top side of the ground. 50 round box should last a lifetime. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 Dogs' and bobcats' toes are shaped like an oval. in bullet weight and energy. Even with the hottest 460 I find the revolver to be controllable. I was carrying my S&W M-57 4 inch gun. Not back in the camper because its too heavy or bulky. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! Federal, He was knocked down to the ground getting mauled fending off the black bear with his left arm while he drew and fired his semi-auto point blank into the bears throat with his right. The BS in this article is deep. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. A grizzly bear is a formidable foe, having no issue whatsoever proving its dominance over human beings. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. You are on the Alaskan highways lets get that straight. Its not the bear in the fight, its the fight in the bear. For College Campuses! There is an interesting compilation of mountain lion incidents and attacks titled: Cougar Attacks & Other Incidents -2000 to date. The lion did not attack further and the boys uncle shot at the cat. A glock 20 (10 mm) has 16 rounds and with the correct ammo is pushing 41 magnum range. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. My advice: If youre standing, attempt to avoid a confrontation; and mentally prepare yourself for the greater likelihood that youll be on your back being chewed on. Do you have an animal or nature story to share with Newsweek? Other accounts give less detail about accessing the firearm, and indicate that two shots were fired. Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. The .45 Colt (L) and .454 Casull (R). and females' territories can range up to 60 square miles. into the Grizzly point blank range killing it. Park staff monitor the population through satellite GPS collars, remote cameras and . Good article. More is always better and the bullet is the key. People started carrying bear spray in that area. Back in It turned its head, but did not appear to see me growled and went into its death throes. Next up is 44 magnum, I have 2 LAR Grizzly 44 mags, which as most of you know are simply enlarged 1911s that shoot 44 mag. From the Noatak to Frazier Lake, Kodiak, Ive seen a lot of bears. I do reload them hot. A neighbor, 1/2 mile away lost some pheasants to one. Buffalo bore makes a 380 grain hardcast gas checked round now too. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. He has spent more than a bit of time in pursuit of bears, hogs, and other game animals with a handgun, in addition to time spent in the Alaskan game fields. I have had experience with all of them and know he is right on target. I asked what type of Rifle he carried. The only real downside is there is not a good rifle to go with the 10 mm. Protect your neck, throat, and head. Listed were all the big names but one very powerful handgun was not mentioned. predators, but also as a general purpose handgun. The only explanation that I can think of is that it was pumped full of adrenaline. The 357 mag is much better then the 40S&W as well. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. Great article. A long barrel revolver or pistol in very close quarters. These lions belong there. AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. vermin such as raccoon, skunk, possum, etc. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? Phil, I cant locate that corner; theres a ******bear down there! Now, as surveyors, we carry machetes to cut the brush in between our survey stations, and we are rather proficient with them. Curiosity got the better of them, and they managed to discharge the canisters in their hotel room that night. My two cents. In your expert opinion is my 44mag redhawk with LBT heat treated solids weighing 300 grains adequate? Last I heard the Judge and Governor are chambered in .45 Colt and shoot the exact same rounds as your Redhawk does. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. The lion can then be shot and removed, or tranquilized and transplanted at least 300 miles (480 km) away. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. I just want to compliment you for making an extremely intelligent decision. I took a 29 S&W 6 .44 mag. Thanks! He put his paw on his shoulder. Like I said before , I wish someone would make a 416 Rem Mag. The wife and I carry 7.5 Ruger Redhawks in 480 Ruger. wild berries and plums, and of course during hunting season (deer and elk for instance) Theyll put down vermin, but small may not put down dangerous game. I shot a 1000+ lb. Home in NW Montana ( we all live in so story to share newsweek! 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